Xref: utzoo comp.sys.atari.st:8183 comp.sys.amiga:15754 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!ucdavis!uop!exodus From: exodus@uop.edu (G.Onufer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Why the Atari ST "flame" was posted up... Message-ID: <1244@uop.edu> Date: 10 Mar 88 00:13:13 GMT References: <12045@brl-adm.ARPA> <463@csvax.liv.ac.uk> <1312@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <478@csvax.liv.ac.uk> Organization: UoP-- Sun Lab Administration Lines: 33 Summary: And this guy....well, read! In article <478@csvax.liv.ac.uk>, sqrkl@csvax.liv.ac.uk writes: > > I didn't ask for it. You are certainly entitled to your > > opinions, but WHY would you post this to comp.sys.atari.st? > Anyway, if you want to see a GOOD machine, forget the Amiga, Macintosh and > Atari ST - buy an Acorn Archimedes...I've been programming in ARM (RISC) code > for a couple of months now and it is BEAUTIFUL (so's the Archimedes - puts > all other machines below a MicroVAX 3500 to shame). I wouldn't worry too much about this guy. He mailed me after I flamed him... in fact, he is still mailing me. His opions are semi-unusual: -Anything that resembles a C-Shell is terrible -If it isn't VMS DCL, it isn't usable -VMS is the most user-friendly system available (or close to it) -GnuEmacs isn't a decent editor -The Acorn is the world's best computer-- [ME: Where is it?] -Unix commands are too cryptic to be usable -BASIC (albeit a modern semi-structured BASIC) is the programming language of choice [ME: Why not use PASCAL?] -C is a terrible language, see above -There are no decent compilers for the ST [Ever see MWC 2.0 or above?] -Only his opinions mean anything See? No problems here. Obviously not a hacker. [These opions have been re-worded but contain the same thoughts he expressed to me. My comments are in brackets containing the word "ME"] He does claim an Archimedes obtains 4 MIPS for somewhere around 800 pounds sterling... is that around 1600 dollars? I forgot the exchange rate!! G.Onufer