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From: mj@myrias.UUCP (Michal Jaegermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.lang.forth
Subject: Re: Atari Forth question
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Date: 10 Mar 88 17:24:46 GMT
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Anthony Hurst asks:
>>Does anyone out there have a version of Forth (preferably F83)
>>that will run on the ST ?

    Forth on ST was available practically from a day one.  All
implementations, which I am aware of, are F83 with 32-bit wide stack
(so no F83 in a strict sense).  There is 4xForth, a product of
Dragon Group.  Very fast an very "traditional" in feel (you know -
block screens, an editor with a heavy brain damage and the like).
Some swear by it. I strongly dislike its indiosyncratic nature.
    A while ago Mach-Forth was advertised in Forth Dimensions
(the same language for Amiga, Mac and ST).  I have never seen a copy,
but I heard some enthusiastic opinions about it.  Rumors had that it
is no longer available.  I do not know if this is a true or not.
    My personal preference is Forthmacs, by Mitch Bradley.  It is 
a stream files based Forth, which uses a version of microEmacs for
its editor.  It is very similar in look, feel and code to a Unix
version of Forth which was quite recently posted to the net.  No big
wonder - the author is the same person.  A "core" part of it - 
executables, lots of code, some rudimentary documentation, around
350Kbytes of software, was released by the author into the public
and one may had it for an asking.  Extensions (fuller documentation,
GEM-interface, source with metacompiler, floating point, other goodies)
are for sale for registered users.  The author is on the net
(...sun!wmb).

    Michal Jeagermann
    Myrias Research Corporation
    Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA
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