Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!pyramid!prls!gert From: gert@prls.UUCP (Gert Slavenburg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Micro RTX Message-ID: <9695@prls.UUCP> Date: 10 Mar 88 23:36:34 GMT References: <169@bdt.UUCP> Reply-To: gert@prls.UUCP (Gert Slavenburg) Organization: Philips Research Labs, Sunnyvale, California Lines: 48 Keywords: RTX Beckemeyer EPROM ROM Summary: Why would I develop for it ? Some remarks/questions intended for the RTX discussion : 1) I enjoyed the RTX description by David Beckemeyer. As an active hobbyist programmer that writes a lot of utilities/tools, small programs and an occasional large program, I would LOVE TO HAVE IT as a standard environment. It will make a lot of usefull things a lot easier to do. Anyone is welcome to (the source of) my small or medium programs. They usually go in the public domain. Remember the first RAMdisk ? Or, less well distributed, the Modula-2 'WINDOWS' package to simplify GEM style programming. 2) However, I am also an opportunistic individual. Whenever I embark on a large program, I want to be able to ultimately sell it in the hope of financing future Atari expansions (or whatever else is still there 2 years from now when the dust settles). WHAT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME IS : How can I write a (large) program under RTX and still benefit from the large customer base out there, if RTX has to be bought by everyone of those customers separately ? Or did I misunderstand that point, David ? If so, some suggestions to David (Beckemeyer) : a) Put the RTX binary, together with some nifty small programs, in the public domain (you need the programs - most users will not see the usefulness of a kernel by itself). This will ensure rapid spreading and make it an attractive target for me as developper. Now you make your money by charging me a fee for the tools & documen- tation needed to produce RTX applications (your $250 - a bit low) and a (per copy) fee on any program that I sell to run under RTX. b) Let's force Atari's hand : I have an EPROM programmer. Let's get together and sell a set of CMOS EPROM's for the ST's that allows current GEM programs to run but also contains RTX - and in the meantime solves the known bugs in the Atari ROM's. Distribute them for almost cost (6 * $8 + postage) and the world will beat a path to your door to standardize to RTX. Now make money by selling REAL developers kits, publishing RTX books and RTX applications. You may even have your own EPROM programmer... How long do you think it will take before Atari will knock on your door for the right to directly put the ROM's in that the public demands ? Let me know in case you want to use my EPROM programmer... Gert Slavenburg