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From: ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Why the Atari ST "flame" was posted up...
Message-ID: <5412@well.UUCP>
Date: 10 Mar 88 21:58:33 GMT
References: <12045@brl-adm.ARPA> <463@csvax.liv.ac.uk> <1312@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <478@csvax.liv.ac.uk> <1244@uop.edu>
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In article <1244@uop.edu> exodus@uop.edu (G.Onufer) writes:
>In article <478@csvax.liv.ac.uk>, sqrkl@csvax.liv.ac.uk writes:
>> > 	I didn't ask for it.  You are certainly entitled to your
>> > 	opinions, but WHY would you post this to comp.sys.atari.st?
>>   Anyway, if you want to see a GOOD machine, forget the Amiga, Macintosh and
>> Atari ST - buy an Acorn Archimedes...I've been programming in ARM (RISC) code
>> for a couple of months now and it is BEAUTIFUL (so's the Archimedes - puts
>> all other machines below a MicroVAX 3500 to shame).
>
>I wouldn't worry too much about this guy.  He mailed me after I flamed him...
>in fact, he is still mailing me.  His opions are semi-unusual:
>
>[ Handwave, Handwave... ]
>-The Acorn is the world's best computer--   [ME: Where is it?]
>
>He does claim an Archimedes obtains 4 MIPS for somewhere around 800 pounds
>sterling... is that around 1600 dollars?  I forgot the exchange rate!!
>
	He is right about the Acorn system; the ARM chip kicks major a**.

	Don't believe it?  Dave Needle (ex C-A hardware tech, and a damn
good one, too) created an Acorn RISC-based prototype system while he worked
for another well-known company after he left C-A.  It was an 8MHz system,
and had it emulating their low-end system's software, and running their
graphics kernel flawlessly.  The ARM system he designed outperformed
every system this company made, including the MAC-II.  It was also cheap
(according to Dave, you can get the ARM chip for $10, quantity one).

	Said company refused to manufacture it, claiming that it would never
work.  Never mind that Dave and others in his crew had a fully functional
prototype, running all the software that the software division said would
never work.

	Dave got fed up because of this, and now works for Epyx, designing
who-knows-what.

	If the Archimedes ever makes it to the States, I'm gonna take a good
look at it.  If Dave's any expert (and he is), it should be one very
impressive system.

DISCLAIMER: Stories relating to this mythical vaporsystem were related to me
by Dave Needle.  I make no claims as to their accuracy.  He may have been
making it all up (not unlikely; he claims to be from Jupiter, and does so
with a straight face).

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