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From: ralphw@IUS3.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU (Ralph Hyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k,comp.sys.amiga
Subject: 68030-based PC's
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Date: 8 Mar 88 22:37:00 GMT
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In article <4744@ecsvax.UUCP> urjlew@ecsvax.UUCP (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes:
>In article <3434@cbmvax.UUCP>, daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes:
>> in article <390@ontenv.UUCP>, norm@ontenv.UUCP (Norman S. Soley) says:
>> > Keywords: 68030
>> > Xref: cbmvax comp.sys.m68k:830 comp.sys.misc:1315
>> 
>> > The subject line says it all. But I'll repeat it. Is anyone aware of a
>> > 68030 based UNIX system which is available now or in the near future?
>> 
>so close upon us, I can't resist ;-). I think it's time for us to
>start a thread on comp.sys.m68k and comp.sys.amiga on designing a
new Amiga [Ranger 3500, C3000] or some other catchy code name (C2001, C2010)?. 
...
>Actually for a while there was a serious discussion in, of all places,
>The Computer Shopper, on a public domain design for an open MAC.
>This was at a time when Jobs at Apple was insisting on a closed box
>with 256-512K of memory. I think that this input did influence the
>design of the MAC. They chose a standardized pd buss, SCSI disk

OK, the Amiga 3000 should be a 16Mhz 68030/882 machine.  It'll be
interesting to see what the graphics hardware will look like in the
next generation of Amiga.
 
IBM PC-style slots would be a good choice, although a provison for
Microchannel or NuBUS boards would be a good idea, since they're the
up-and-coming busses.

There should be a provision for running Mac software and reading 800k
and 1.6M Mac disks [One can imagine Mac Toolbox compatible machines
(use the same [documented] dispatch table entry points & parameters, 
although the code must be different) similar to PC BIOS clone machines].
If there's existing software out there that will work, then it establishes a
compatibility standard which software can be rated on:
('Foobaz' runs on Mac+, SE, Mac ][, and and the Amiga with the MacAmiga
software, but MacST, for example)

(A third party product is OK, but it's better if Commodore-Amiga views it
as a strategic product and supports it in some way.)

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