Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:13437 comp.windows.misc:164 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!oliveb!sun!morocco!landauer From: landauer@morocco.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.windows.misc Subject: Re: A/UX window systems, Mac toolbox, etc Message-ID: <43879@sun.uucp> Date: 2 Mar 88 22:29:50 GMT References: <1710@ssc-vax.UUCP> <579@eplrx7.UUCP> Sender: news@sun.uucp Reply-To: landauer@sun.UUCP (Doug Landauer) Followup-To: nowhere Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 30 > How can you say that the look and feel are being bypassed when nearly every > windowing system has either 'borrowed from' or flat out copied the Mac user > interface. No, most modern window systems borrowed from work done at Xerox PARC, just like Apple did for most of the features of the Mac's user interface. > > why else did Apple sue DRI for GEM. > Apple sued DRI for blatantly ripping off the Mac user interface OK, folks, it's time once again to correct this misinformation. Apple never sued DRI. Apple only threatened to sue, and DRI, which was having financial trouble due to several years of marketing mistakes, prudently chose to change GEM to alter the behavior of the features that Apple's lawyers felt that Apple owned. I believe that the primary Macintosh user-interface feature that Apple felt the legal right to object to in GEM was the top-of-the-screen pull-down menus, which are appropriate only to the tiny screen that the original Mac was saddled with (and to the IBM-PC's CGA). Xerox PARC had used pop-up menus, which are much better suited to the larger screen sizes now (finally!) becoming common. This is one reason why Sun never felt any similar heat from Apple. Not coincidentally, that feature is one of the ones being bypassed by window systems designed for larger screens. - Doug Landauer Sun Microsystems, Inc. ARPA Internet: landauer@sun.com Software Products Division UUCP: ...!sun!landauer