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From: hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Robert Joseph Hammen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: macintalk
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Date: 9 Mar 88 21:46:29 GMT
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Reply-To: hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Robert Hammen)
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Summary: Macintalk not freely distributable

>I'm trying to find the latest version of Macintalk (I think it's 1.31 or
>something), but it doesn't seem to be at sumex-aim or macserve@pucc.  Is

This question seems to come up every two weeks (after the previous one has
expired). Macintalk is software owned by Apple. In order for anyone to
distribute it, they have to sign a license agreement with Apple. On-line
services like Compu$erve, GEnie, and Delphi, and users groups such as
BMUG and BCS (among others) have signed such license agreements and are
able to distribute the software. However, since Usenet or the various
Bitnet/ARPAnet archive sites aren't formal organizations (and probably
can't or wouldn't generate the cash needed to pay the license fee), Apple
software (like the System, Finder, Switcher, ResEdit) can't be distributed
there. Your only solution to the matter is:

1) find a local users group. See if they are licensed to distribute the
software.
2) find a local BBS. Ditto.
3) order it from BMUG - for example, they're distributing Macintalk 1.31
with their Fall/Winter issue of the newsletter (recently distributed to
members at MacWorld SF). They also distribute the System Tools 5.0 release
for $8 (this doesn't get you the docs, but you do get the 4 disks). BMUG
has a usenet address - well!bmug for those interested.
4) order it from APDA (you have to be a member to do so - $20/yr.)
5) get an account on CI$, GEnie or Delphi. System Software is in the main
areas, programming tools are in the developer areas (usually).

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