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From: schoff@NISC.NYSER.NET ("Marty Schoffstall")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.proteon
Subject: Re: nysernet sgmp available to commercial sites
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Date: 8 Mar 88 12:33:07 GMT
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    Marty, I have reservations about the commercial nature of your announcement
    which appeared on the snmp list, many of whom are on the Arpanet.
    This have been an area which is becoming more gray as time goes by,
    but it is a sensitive area and should not become an ongoing policy.

I certainly don't want to move into the gray area!! but I don't understand
the difference of a non-profit company like NYSERNet announcing availability
of something like SGMP/SNMP, vs CMU announcing its VMS/TCP or SRI
announcing PC/SAM.  I tried to stay in the white but not talking about
money, by not using any of the traditional arpa mailing lists like
tcp-ip, etc...  How does one in the hot environment of network management
get the word out?   As a non-profit you could imagine it might be hard
to take an add out in InfoWorld or Datamation.  But anyway, I don't
think I have to do this again, my responsability to informing the
community is over.

    It really does raise an issue in an internet where policy's differ
    in this area.  Nysernet may well allow commercial mail, but the
    Arpanet does not (in general).  Perhaps this type of mail could be
    indicated as a type of service (e.g. 2nd class mail) and networks
    which wont accecpt it could reject it.

I'm not sure what I sent out was commercial mail, and I don't think that
we allow commercial mail, but like you said it is viewed by you and others
as grey.  TOS would be an interesting may to handle commercial datagrams
though.

Marty