Xref: utzoo comp.unix.questions:5961 comp.unix.wizards:6870 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!minya!jc From: jc@minya.UUCP (John Chambers) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Usenet Security Message-ID: <471@minya.UUCP> Date: 5 Mar 88 04:42:12 GMT References: <108@tron.UUCP> <2739@codas.att.com> <23504@hi.unm.edu> <3206@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Organization: home Lines: 21 Summary: Feature, not bug... In article <3206@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>, wolfgang@mgm.mit.edu (Wolfgang Rupprecht) writes: > > Call-back is a great hack. Unfortunately it only works if the Unix > system can insure that the phone connection is truly broken when Unix > hangs up the modem. Some phone exchanges seem to have bugs that allow > the call originator to keep the connetion open, even if the call > recipient hangs up. Uh, this isn't always a bug. I've worked in places that got sufficiently many threatening phone calls that they got the phone company to arrange for call termination only when the local end hung up. That way, if you got a weird call, you could leave the phone off the hook, and ask one of the secretaries (via another phone line, usually) to trace the call. One place even had sets on the secretaries' desks that would show the number of the calling party. It was then easy enough to call the phone company and ask for the physical location of that number, then call the police... Of course, if you have this kind of service, then you can subvert the call-back scheme exactly as Wolfgang describes. -- John Chambers <{adelie,ima,maynard,mit-eddie}!minya!{jc,root}> (617/484-6393)