Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!uwmcsd1!jgd From: jgd@csd1.milw.wisc.edu (John G Dobnick,EMS E380,5727,) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Why does "root" worn everything? Message-ID: <5209@uwmcsd1.UUCP> Date: 13 Mar 88 04:07:30 GMT Sender: daemon@uwmcsd1.UUCP Distribution: na Lines: 41 [Is the line eater an endangered species?] After nosing around in source directories, and after looking at various installation scripts, I was struck by a curiosity. After thinking about the file security features of UNIX, and their total lack of applicability to "root", I was even more struck by this same curiosity. Why does "root" seem to "own" everything? Why is almost *all* installed software (at least that which is supplied *with* the stock system) installed by "root"? [I think these are really two statements of the same question.] Given the security risks of running as root (*NO* protection at all), I would think that most system maintenance work (like software installation) would be done under as userid that is "protected". It is *easy* to screw up, and if you screw up as root ... I would think that a "library" (or "bin") login would exist for the purpose of installing and maintaining software. The second timesharing system I ever used (a DEC TSS-8, on a PDP-8/e), was organized this way. (The first timesharing system was a Burroughs B5500 running MCP... but I digress [and show my age].) Subsidiary questions. Is this organization historical? Is it just laziness on the part of the [original/intermediate/recent] developers/distributors of UNIX? Is this situation going to be addressed? Is the situation different between the System V and Berkeley species of UNIX? (We use the bsd variant, if that is really relevant to this issue.) I have limited this to North America only, as the suppliers of UNIX all seem to be located there. [Unless California has fallen off already. :-) ] -- John G Dobnick Computing Services Division @ University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee UUCP: {ihnp4|uwvax}!uwmcsd1!jgd INTERNET: jgd@csd4.milw.wisc.edu "Knowing how things work is the basis for appreciation, and is thus a source of civilized delight." -- William Safire