Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!steinmetz!ge-dab!codas!pdn!reggie From: reggie@pdn.UUCP (George W. Leach) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: VMS is not the evil empire Message-ID: <2528@pdn.UUCP> Date: 15 Mar 88 13:40:26 GMT References: <12067@brl-adm.ARPA> <707@hdr.UUCP> <20469@bu-cs.BU.EDU> <418@nbc1.UUCP> Reply-To: reggie@pdn.UUCP (George W. Leach) Organization: Paradyne Corporation, Largo FL Lines: 32 In article <418@nbc1.UUCP> abs@nbc1.UUCP (Andrew Siegel) writes: >In article <20469@bu-cs.BU.EDU> bzs@bu-cs.BU.EDU (Barry Shein) writes: >>DEC's pathological resistance to providing hardware service on Vaxes >>running Ultrix or Unix is a good reason not to buy Vaxes, it's no >>reason not to buy Unix which can be had from responsible vendors. > >Correction (partial): DEC *does* support VAXes running ULTRIX. >We've had ULTRIX since June '85, and have had hardware support all >along. Well when I was with Bellcore our lab utilized Ultrix 1.0 on some VAX 780's. I really don't remember how the hardware support was, but I never heard any complaints. The complaints were on the software front. In order for the system administrator to perform diagnostic tests, s/he would first have to boot VMS!!! Another problem we had was that we were sold a machine with 16 Mg of main memory. Ultrix only could address 8 Mg! Now, of course all that has changed and it was their first attempt at UNIX, but VMS was king and the Ultrix customers were well aware of it. That led us to drop DEC and go with Pyramid and CCI for our development machines. The experiences with DEC left a bad taste in people's mouths. Those kinds of experiences are rather difficult to overcome, even if DEC has allegedly changed their tune on Ultrix. -- George W. Leach Paradyne Corporation {gatech,rutgers,attmail}!codas!pdn!reggie Mail stop LF-207 Phone: (813) 530-2376 P.O. Box 2826 Largo, FL 34649-2826