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From: avolio@decuac.dec.com (Frederick M. Avolio)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
Subject: VMS is not the evil empire
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Date: 18 Mar 88 03:53:53 GMT
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In article <493@cunixc.columbia.edu> fuat@cunixc.columbia.edu (Fuat C. Baran) writes:
>Does this mean Ultrix is now getting as much funding as VMS is
>currently getting?  Doesn't VMS have a head start, and things aren't
>equal yet...

Yes, they get equal funding.  Well, very nearly.  And yes, VMS has a
head start. The issue is support.  Is it all *there* yet?  No.  When
Lincoln declared all the slaves free did they all start living like
they were free right off?  No.  The apostle Paul says that all who are
born of the Spirit are new creation and the "old man is dead."  Do all
such people change the way they live over night?  No.  (Wonderful
analogies, eh?)  The question isn't "Ultrix vs. VMS" as much as "is
Unix(tm) important to Digital as a whole and in particular in the
executive suite of the Mill?"  The answer is yes.

>>VAX diagnostics run under Ultrix as well as under VMS.
>
>DEC Local recently brought in a VMS RA60 pack to be able to run
>diagnostics on our 8700.  Are you sure ALL VAX diagnostics exist under
>Ultrix?  i.e. can an Ultrix site run without ever hearing anything
>about VMS?

VAX Level 3 diagnostics can be installed and will boot from an ULTRIX
or VMS machine.

Fred