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From: rusty@velveeta.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X Toolkit
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Date: 16 Mar 88 00:52:23 GMT
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Overall, I'm _VERY_ impressed.  Many, many thanks to the X Toolkit
people!

Here are some complaints, suggestions, and questions:

Widget placement; needs something like TeX "glue".  For example, I am
making a dialog box that consists of a label widget with the string
"really quit?" and under it 2 buttons "yes" and "no".  I want the yes
button flush left and the no button flush right.  I couldn't get this
layout.  I would like to be able to put a spring or some "glue" that
has infinite expandability between the 2 buttons.

Documentation needs more work.

	Needs a XT(1) manual page like the X(1) manual page.  It's
	wrong for user-level manual pages for programs that were
	written with Xt to rely on the user reading the X Toolkit
	programmer's documentation for additional info on command line
	options and whatnot.  Likewise for manual pages that refer the
	user to the Xlib documentation (cf, X(1)).  There needs to be
	a section 1 manual page devoted to resources, or put it in the
	X(1) manual page.

	Xt needs a set of (3X) manual pages.

	Needs a better/clearer explanation of what things are
	inherited from the very top.  E.g., where is it documented
	that the -icon option starts a toolkit program iconified?

	Should be more forceful about telling programmers to use the
	provided typedefs.  For example, I've seen several occurences
	of "sizeof(char *)" in applications when it should be
	"sizeof(String)".

	The section on the XtN{left,right,up,down} and XtNrubber stuff
	is very unclear to me.  I played around with them but they
	didn't do very much.

How do you startup a toolkit window and get it placed somewhere?  That
is, I want to use a popup dialog/query window and don't want the user
to have to use the mouse to place it, it should just pop up near the
mouse.

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	rusty c. wright
	rusty@cartan.berkeley.edu ucbvax!cartan!rusty