Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!uwvax!dogie!uwmcsd1!marque!gryphon!greg From: greg@gryphon.CTS.COM (Greg Laskin) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Top 25 News Groups for the last 2 weeks (from talk.bizarre) Message-ID: <2795@gryphon.CTS.COM> Date: 7 Mar 88 08:04:48 GMT References: <7080@uunet.UU.NET> <1918@mind.UUCP> <1156WGRCU@CUNYVM> <1870@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <129@ccd700.UUCP> Reply-To: greg@gryphon.CTS.COM (Greg Laskin) Distribution: na Organization: Trailing Edge Technology, Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 62 I'll take pity on our trans-continental friends and limit this to North America. In article <129@ccd700.UUCP> jim@ccd700.UUCP (J. Sitek) writes: >I get paid to support Usenet (among many other things). I won't say >that talk.bizarre is any *less* worthy of my time than the aforementioned >soc groups. They are all *equally* unworthy of my time, period. Am I >a fascist sysadmin? Perhaps. Do I care if that's what you think of me? >Nope. The people around here get paid to design automobiles, not to >waste the company's time and money arguing with psychotic feminists, >arguing the merits of singles bars, or (worst case) posting juvenile, >often unintelligible nonsense to the ends of the earth. It is for this >reason that I have chosen to eliminate the talk/soc groups from our >feed. Besides, I was getting a little tired of coming in every >morning and seeing "file system full" on my console screen. > Should we collectively worry about what Jim thinks of us? Let's examine the latest available information from the UUCP map: #N ccd700 #S fortune 32:16 #O Ford Climate Control #C Jim Sitek, Ron Tribble #E ccd700!jim, ccd700!ron #W ccd700!ron (ron tribble); Wed Aug 26 10:58:55 EDT 1987 # ccd700 mibte(DAILY*3) The map entry for Jim's site is a bit old but it appears that ccd700 is, at best, a leaf node. While I respect Jim's right to do whatever he wants with the system he administers and to the people who read the news at his site, I would submit that his pontifications are pretty irrelevent to the overall flow of net traffic. In other words, Jim is hand waving. I seen several postings from administrators announcing that for various reasons, mostly seeming to revolve around the content of a group or something an individual poster to a group posted, they were going to strike the big blow and axe various groups from the systems they administer. Unquestionably, that is within their purview. By dropping the big one, one would expect that these administrators have solved their problem. No longer do these groups impact on their machine resources, communications budgets or threaten the work ethic of their user. Why then do they feel the need to proclaim their rightiousness to the rest of us? Do they really feel they need to justify their actions to us? Nay, I suspect there is a hidden agenda in these postings. -- Greg Laskin "When everybody's talking and nobody's listening, how can we decide?" INTERNET: Greg.Laskin@gryphon.CTS.COM UUCP: ihnp4!scgvaxd!cadovax!gryphon!greg rutgers!marque!gryphon!greg codas!ddsw1!gryphon!greg