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From: clewis@spectrix.UUCP (Chris R. Lewis)
Newsgroups: news.admin,news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: bounced news->mail
Message-ID: <497@spectrix.UUCP>
Date: 9 Mar 88 17:40:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: spectrix.497
Posted: Wed Mar  9 12:40:55 1988
References: <382@bnl.ARPA>
Reply-To: clewis@spectrix.UUCP (Chris R. Lewis)
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Organization: Spectrix Microsystems Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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In article <382@bnl.ARPA> abrams@bnl.UUCP (Karl L. Abrams) writes:
>I have recently begun receiving many pieces of undeliverable mail which
>are actually articles trying to reach the moderator of comp.unix.microport.

Were these articles you posted?  Just curious.

>I can understand why the mail is bouncing.  The posting sites still have the
>newsgroup comp.unix.microport as moderated while the backbone site no longer
>has a moderater listed for that group.  

Not exactly - all sites that are running 2.11 B that still have c.u.m moderated 
will attempt to mail all un-"Approved:" articles they receive to the moderator
(via mailpaths usually) instead of handling it normally.

Eg: I posted one article, and I got two bounces because cbosgd had dropped
the c-u-m-request alias from their mailer.  One of them was relatively easy 
to trace back to the system that generated the mail.  The other was a little 
more difficult.  I sent mail to their administrators, and have gotten one 
response back so far telling me that they had fixed their problem.

>But why are copies of all of the bounced articles winding up in my 
>Postmaster mail queue?

Have other sites been putting you into their mailpaths files?  Soon as you
drop your alias for "c-u-m-request", you will start rejecting one heck
of a lot of mail (each site with you in their mailpaths file will send you
a copy of all unapproved articles - which results in getting the whole
load of c.u.m *times* the number of sites which have you in their mailpaths
dumped on you!).

I wish Spaf hadn't made checkgroups manual again...
-- 
Chris Lewis, Spectrix Microsystems Inc,
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Phone: (416)-474-1955