Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!sunybcs!dmark From: dmark@sunybcs.uucp (David Mark) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Life List rules Message-ID: <8981@sunybcs.UUCP> Date: 3 Mar 88 17:06:26 GMT References: <499@picuxa.UUCP> Sender: nobody@sunybcs.UUCP Reply-To: dmark@joey.UUCP (David Mark) Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science Lines: 41 In article <499@picuxa.UUCP> gp@picuxa.UUCP (Greg Pasquariello X1190) writes: >While on a recent field trip with a group of birders that I don't usually >bird with, the subject of life lists came up. It turns out that their >group will add a bird to their life lists if they simply hear it, or get >a glimpse of it, whereas I (and my birding buddies) will not take a bird >unless I get an exceptionally good look at it. I am not criticizing either >method, but I am wondering how the rest of the country does it. Please let >me know what criteria a sighting must meet in order for you to add the bird >to your life list. > [several lines deleted] The only real rule of life listing is, in the immortal words of Ben Feltner: "It's your list!" As long as the list is for your own enjoyment, then count whatever you feel like counting. If you are in a friendly competition with birding buddies, then you just need to agree on a common set of criteria. The ownly 'formal' rules for listing that I know about are those designed by the American Birding Association. To add a bird to your North American or World Life List, it must be (1) SEEN and identified by the lister; (2) wild and unrestrained when observed. There are some subsidiary rules that cover birds netted (for banding) and released (not countable at the release site for 24 hours; this prevents someone from netting a bird, phoning Bert Lystor, who drives across the state, and sees it just as they release it). ABA rules are usually interpreted such that if you see an outline WITH NO FIELDMARKS, from which a clearly-identifiable sound comes, then you CAN count the bird. But, no matter how well you hear it, and how unambiguous the sound is, if you don't catch a glimpse, you cannot count it. Before I joined the ABA, I counted heard birds (as long as there was no chance that I was hearing a mockingbird or a starling). For a while after I joined the ABA, I kept two life lists: my own, and the version adapted to ABA rules. But now, ABA rules come naturally to me, and I didn't count Black Rail, even though I was in the immediate presence of one doing its "kicky-doo" in a salt-marsh in Maryland. So, if you compare lists, use standarized rules. ABA rules are as good as any. If you don't compare, publish, or tell your list totals, then "It's your list!!"