Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!jurjen From: jurjen@cwi.nl (Jurjen N.E. Bos) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: Fermat's Last Theorem apparently proven Message-ID: <7521@boring.cwi.nl> Date: 15 Mar 88 09:01:16 GMT References: <977@thumper.bellcore.com> <7440@brl-smoke.ARPA> <26797@linus.UUCP> <7449@brl-smoke.ARPA> <26822@linus.UUCP> <1009@sdcc13.ucsd.EDU> Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Lines: 25 In article <1009@sdcc13.ucsd.EDU> ln63wgq@sdcc13.ucsd.edu.UUCP (Keith Messer) writes: >You know, that's my logic too, Bob. A mathematical (even if we have to call >it mathematical) property is useful whether or not it is proven. Supposing >I find some regularity in a mathematical system by induction (but in a case >where mathematical induction is not adequate proof) and decide to write a >program to do analysis based on that regularity. Either the program will >succeed and be useful to me or it will fail, disproving my hypothesis. The >point is that I win either way. > > Keith > ln63wgq%sdemlab@sdcsvax I think you're missing something here. Your program NEVER will succeed, because there is an infinity of cases. It can only fail. If you want to prove something, you need a proof, not a 'convincing' number of tries. Of course your program can fail, unproving your assumption (so you only win if you make weird assumptions! :-)) If you want to be sure, PROVE. You can assume things, but this will only partially sovle your problems. If I use the Riemann Hypothesis in an article, I will clearly say that I use an unproven hypothesis. -- Jurjen -- -- Jurjen N.E. Bos (jurjen@cwi.nl)