Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!oliveb!sun!cognito!randolph From: randolph%cognito@Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz) Newsgroups: sci.psychology Subject: Re: Animal Thought (was Re: language, thought, and culture) Message-ID: <45232@sun.uucp> Date: 12 Mar 88 08:58:37 GMT References: <44@gollum.Columbia.NCR.COM> <2894@pbhyf.UUCP> <927@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> Sender: news@sun.uucp Lines: 29 Keywords: thought modalities Summary: dreams and thought In response to an article of mine, Cliff Joslyn (vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu) writes: I wouldn't want to call dreaming a kind of thinking. The difference is that dreams are uncontrolled. and later, [the qualitative difference between human and non-human animal intelligence] is the ability to control the generation and manipulation of representations. In many senses thinking is not controlled. Can you stop yourself from visualising a color when you hear "red" in the appropriate context? Change the way you feel when you greet your lover? Change the meanings you use for the symbols of C, if you know the language? [To step briefly to an unrelated discussion, this is part of making an effective advertisement -- choosing symbols to which a large group of people respond uncontrollably in some desired way.] Humans can plan strategies which result in changes in their own responses (learning). Yet we do not control that which make us want to learn nor that which makes us choose particular subjects. I wonder . . . is the distinctive quality of human intelligence simply that we want to learn? Or is that, too, something we share with other animals? __Randolph Fritz randolph@sun.com sun!randolph