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From: vu0112@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn)
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Subject: Re: language, thought, and culture
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Date: 16 Mar 88 03:29:36 GMT
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In article <5490@swan.ulowell.edu> sbrunnoc@hawk.ulowell.edu (Sean Brunnock) writes:
>   Human beings are not the only possessors of conciousness though. In
>Kohler's experiments with apes *, the subjects underwent a lengthy period
>of inactivity before they solved the problems put before them. This is
>the type of insightful learning that Thorndike said all animals were
>incapable of. 

All animals? Even paramecium? Seriuosly, I don't doubt what you say at
all, but I'm not sure if it gives my theory problems.  Perhaps *higher*
primates have sufficient neural advancement to be *taught* to think.  I
think I actually said as much.  That doesn't mean they have the
necessary neural structures to do so naturally, or that it isn't a
qualitiatively different kind of behavior even for them. 

>Sean Brunnock
>sbrunnoc@hawk.cs.ulowell

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