Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: SATURN V BOOSTERS Message-ID: <1988Mar9.180720.618@utzoo.uucp> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <21644@bbn.COM>, <5129@uwmcsd1.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9 Mar 88 18:07:20 GMT Grump. I'm only gonna write the following one more time, so listen up! :-) The history of the Saturn Vs is quite well documented. Fifteen were built. Two flew unmanned tests, Apollos 4 and 6 as I recall. Three were used for manned Apollo tests, Apollos 8, 9, and 10. (Apollo 7 went up on a Saturn 1B.) There were seven actual lunar missions. That leaves three, originally scheduled for Apollos 18-20. One of those was used to launch Skylab. (The Skylab crews went up on 1Bs.) That leaves two real, live flight-ready Saturn Vs, which were mothballed in the VAB against possible future use. In about 1976, with no such use in sight, it was officially decided that the modifications to Complex 39 for the shuttle would *not* preserve Saturn V compatibility, and therefore those two would never fly. One of them is rusting on the lawn at Kennedy, the other is rusting on the lawn at JSC (in Houston). There were several "test articles", which were not considered flight-ready although some of them could probably have been flown in a pinch. These preceded the real Saturn Vs on the production line, and were used for things like ground tests and shaking the bugs out of the production process. One of them, used for vibration tests I think, is now protected as a national monument or something on that order; it is in protected storage at (I think) Marshall. The one rusting on the lawn at Marshall (well, properly speaking at the whatever-the-museum-and-visitors-center-is-called-I-forget) is also a test article. There may be more. There is quite a bit of miscellaneous hardware, e.g. engines, in storage in various places. There are also a lot of Saturn 1Bs around, most of them ex-flight-ready, since a fair number of them were built and very few were used. (For those of you in such a revolting state of ignorance that you cannot tell the difference on sight, apart from sheer size the most distinctive thing to look at is the main body of the first stage: on the Saturn 1B [and Saturn 1, but that's a distinction we need not worry about], it is a bundle of cylinders rather than a single cylinder. The 1B first stage was the biggest that could be built using mostly off-the-shelf hardware, and its first-stage tanks are a collection of stretched Redstone and Jupiter tanks bundled together. The Saturn V was just too big for this approach.) -- Those who do not understand Unix are | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology condemned to reinvent it, poorly. | {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,utai}!utzoo!henry