Path: utzoo!hoptoad!ptsfa!pacbell!ames!eos!aurora!agate!ucbvax!ucsd!sdcsvax!ucsdhub!hp-sdd!hplabs!hpda!hpcupt1!hpcuhb!rb From: rb@hpcuhb.HP.COM (Robert Brooks) Newsgroups: alt.individualism Subject: Re: KC; libertarians and abortion Message-ID: <13350003@hpcuhb.HP.COM> Date: 22 Mar 88 22:07:19 GMT References: <3386@dasys1.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Lines: 21 / hpcuhb:alt.individualism / rb@hpcuhb.HP.COM (Robert Brooks) / 9:27 pm Mar 21, 1988 / >Unfortunately individualism, at least in the guide of Objectivism, >replaces the right of the tribe/group to kill with the power of the >individual. Rand states that man (her term) only has a right to exist >as a reasoning being, and then gives the example by having Dagny shoot >the guard because he refused to make a rational choice. (And that >Dagny would have regretted shooting an animal, but felt no remorse >over shooting this human.) The consistent structure of Objectivism >allows the individual to be accusor, judge, and executor. If you say >that human life is only diGtrent from other animal life by its power >of reason then you get to decide whether a human is reasoning and >decide if it gets to live. ... >-- >David Hawkins {pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!dhawk Please provide a reference for this. I don't recall reading anything about a guard being shot in _Atlas_Shrugged_, and what you are saying isn't at all consistent with my understanding of Objectivism. ----------