Xref: utzoo comp.dcom.lans:1157 comp.protocols.tcp-ip:2827 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!rochester!cornell!uw-beaver!fluke!jeff From: jeff@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Stearns) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: ethernet monitor needed? Message-ID: <3185@fluke.COM> Date: 22 Mar 88 22:15:39 GMT References: <3447@cbmvax.UUCP> Sender: news@tc.fluke.COM Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 34 In article <3447@cbmvax.UUCP>, grr@cbmvax.UUCP (George Robbins) writes about his search for Ethernet test gear. I'll put in a plug for the Cabletron LAN-MD. It's a suitcase-sized box that can thoroughly test cables and transceivers. A pair of LAN-MD's can exercise transceivers in place and tell you things that you'll never otherwise know. Which of your transceivers have broken or out-of-spec collision detect circuitry? How will you find them? Hint: Can a computer tell if its transceiver has this problem? Now that we're in the age of level I vs level II vs 802.3, we have abundant opportunities to pair up Ethernet controllers with the wrong kind of transceiver, multiplexor, or cable. Physical and link-level problems like this are often inscrutable to higher-level tools. Imagine a chart of the ISO reference model. Stick a pushpin in it for every Ethernet problem you've had. Here's a starter drawn from recent memory: Controllers that don't conform to the Ethernet spec, wrong cable type for transceiver level, out-of-spec transceivers, defective transceivers, broken Ethernet controllers, buggy controllers, buggy device drivers, improperly-installed vampire taps, noise-sensitive transceivers, loose transceiver cables, bugs in TCP/IP, NFS, ND, and ftp. That puts a lot of pins down at the bottom of the chart, below the level of monitors and protocol analyzers. The LAN-MD works well down there. I wouldn't be surprised if Cabletron were working on something newer than the LAN-MD; you might also want to ask 'em that. -- Jeff Stearns Domain: jeff@tc.fluke.COM Voice: +1 206 356 5064 If you must: {uw-beaver,microsoft,sun}!fluke!jeff USPS: John Fluke Mfg. Co. / P.O. Box C9090 / Everett WA 98206