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From: peter@nuchat.UUCP (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.misc,comp.windows.misc,comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Apple Challenges HP New Wave, MS-Windows, Potentially OS/2 PM
Message-ID: <870@nuchat.UUCP>
Date: 29 Mar 88 12:09:56 GMT
References: <5480@well.UUCP> <5492@well.UUCP> <1457@ur-tut.UUCP> <3221@fluke.COM>
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Note the less-than-massive crossposting. Pleas, people, let's take this
discussion to comp.misc where it belongs.

In article <3221@fluke.COM>, kurt@tc.fluke.COM (Kurt Guntheroth) writes:
> Apple is not challenging MS's use of mousies and windows, but of the use of
> windows with a specifically drawn bar on the top, a specifically drawn close
> gadget on the upper left, and all those specifically rendered images of
> specific buttons and controls all around the border.

Microsoft Windows does not make use of a menu bar at the top of the screen, or
a close gadget in the upper left corner, and so on. Microsoft's menu bars
are even more obnoxious than Apple's. Microsoft's windowing is based on
the concept of a process, not a file.

> It is saying that MS's
> copy is so close as to confuse a legal mind over whose product it is.

Legal minds are awfully easy to confuse, then.

> If MS
> wants windows, dialog boxes, file icons, etc., that may be ok, but they must
> "look and feel" different from the ones Apple uses so that you will be able
> to tell the products apart.  MS might even be able to get away with putting
> them in the same place on the screen if they were drawn differently.

They are. Windows looks radically different from Mac's Finder. Have you ever 
worked with Windows?

> Commodore redrew their window stuff in an effort to preempt a
> lawsuit by Apple for the same reason.

Are you sure of this? The Amiga's windowing stuff still retains Apple's
two biggest screwups... uh, features. Yeh, that's the ticket.
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