Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!rochester!udel!mmdf From: TLIMONCE%DREW.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Subject: Re: The Amiga Port Message-ID: <1713@louie.udel.EDU> Date: 24 Mar 88 16:41:51 GMT Sender: mmdf@udel.EDU Lines: 113 On 3/24/88 Barnacle Wes writes: >In article <1483@louie.udel.EDU>, TLIMONCE%DREW.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes: >> Minix has a faster file system! >> AmigaDos 1.3 has a faster file system. Wait for it to be released >> soon. > >Love those "REAL SOON NOW" release dates. How do you know AmigaDOS 1.3 >will be faster than the Minix file system, since neither has been released >yet? Boy, I really hate flame wars. A while ago a port of Minix to the Amiga was discussed and for many it was a LONG BORING discussion because it was cross posted to the Amiga discussion. It was not boring TO ME, per se, (I like Minix and would love to see it running on an Amiga) but it was to others. Recently someone who had not seen that discussion naively asked if there was such a port in the works. To prevent that discussion over again, I tried to summerize the last discussion. I was not trying to dogmatize the Amiga. WHAT REALLY GETS ME UPSET is the fact that the person who flamed on my post OMITTED THE PART WHERE I EXPLAIN THAT and justs flames on what I said about the discussion! I HATE 'REAL SOON NOW' announcements as much as the next guy but I only spoke of things that I have used. AmigaDOS 1.3 has been released to developers and the new file system portion is being shipped (it works under 1.2 as well as 1.3) by special agreement with Commodore and harddrive makers. >> Minix has multitasking! >> AmigaDOS has always had multitasking. > >AmigaDOS has always *SORT OF* had multitasking: applications can turn it >off, blowing up other applications that use the multitasking. Sure, I can go straight to the hardware on my IBM PClone running MINIX and shut off the multitasking! In fact, the common way to avoid multitasking on the Amiga is to do a non-standard boot block. Guess what, buddy? I can boot MS-DOS on my "Minix Machine" if I want to aviod multitasking. :-) (Yes, that's pushing it... no flames please) >> Minix has pipes! >> AmigaDOS has at least 2-3 public domain versions of a PIPE: >> device. > >A pipe "device"???? Get real! You are right! But if you paid attention to my first paragraph, you'd notice that I was summarizing *A* discussion, not *MY* discussion. I, too believe that a pipe "device" is not a real solution. >> So basically, it was a dead issue. > >Why is it a dead issue? Because you are not interested? I bet you beleive >your bedroom is the center of the universe, too! I'm sorry, let me re-phase that. "So basically, to the people who were discussing the port, it was a dead issue." Now, read my next sentence and it'll all flow: >> Of course, it would a great project for someone to do on the Amiga. > >I think so. It is especially appealing to me that it would be pretty easy >to make the Amiga and Atari versions binary (and disk format) compatible. (Here I say that though they were not interested, I thought it had merit. You combat that stateing that it would be great to make it compat with the Atari ST version. (MY OPINION *ON*) Well, that sounds good, but the disk formats are a ways different and the low-level interface to the ST and Amiga hardware is quite different. (MY OPINION *OFF*) >> Actually, if they could get it to work on the bridge-board (IBM compatable >> add-on) some people could use Minix. > >Why would you want to waste an Amiga as a "terminal" for the IBM version >of Minix? And if the bridge board is truly "IBM compatible", the PC version >of Minix will already run on it. The bridge board is truly compatable. In fact, it's more compatable than some IBM Clones. I think that Minix would work, I just have not tried it. >> A truely interesting port would be >> to have Minix running as a task under AmigaDOS. A nice, well-behaved >> task would be very useful. > >Nah, a truly interesting port would be a version of Minix with a floppy >driver that would automagically recognize and re-format any AmigaDOS floppy >put into a drive. Nothing like good humor on the net (and that was nothing like good humor on the net) :-) Sort of like your comment about my bedroom about 35 lines up. >Seriously, if you aren't interested in Minix, why are you here telling >everyone why they DON'T want it for the Amiga? Go back to comp.sys.amiga >and 3-line function calls. I *AM* interested in Minix. I happen to be VERY interested in it. (I also don't do 3-line function calls, my programs are compiled with a much better bindings system... as most compilers do now-a-days) >Is anyone out there planning to do a window manager for Minix on the Atari >and Amiga? That would be really nice :-). > >-- > /\ - " Against Stupidity, - {backbones}! > /\/\ . /\ - The Gods Themselves - utah-cs!utah-gr! > / \/ \/\/ \ - Contend in Vain." - uplherc!sp7040! > / U i n T e c h \ - Schiller - obie!wes Tom Limoncelli | Drew U/Box 1060/Madison NJ 07940 | tlimonce@drew.BITNET Disclaimer: These are my views, not my employer or Drew Univesity --------------------------------------------------------------------------