Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!ncar!gatech!bloom-beacon!oberon!cit-vax!ucla-cs!sdcrdcf!csun!sef From: sef@csun.UUCP (Sean Fagan) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Delete vs. rm Message-ID: <1155@csun.UUCP> Date: 25 Mar 88 16:42:39 GMT References: <36568QAA@PSUVM> <2413@bsu-cs.UUCP> <2903@enea.se> <5683@swan.ulowell.edu> Reply-To: sef@csun.UUCP (Sean Fagan) Organization: CSU, Northridge Sun Computer Lines: 26 In article <5683@swan.ulowell.edu> arosen@hawk.ulowell.edu (MFHorn) writes: >> "rm" does, as far I know, just unlink the file, there is no /ERASE option >>with which you can clean the disk space. > >This is a problem, and until someone takes unix security _very_ seriously, >it will probably be ignored. No it is not a problem!!!!! Unix spends free cycles doing a couple of things, one of these being zero-ing out free disk blocks. Whenever you request disk blocks, if they have not been zeroed out, Unix will do this for you, *AUTOMATICALLY*. Got that? You don't have to request that it be specifically deleted. While more secure, it does have some problems (such as you cannot recover a file you just deleted, since it is possibly already dead and buried by then). >Andy Rosen | arosen@hawk.ulowell.edu | "I got this guitar and I >ULowell, Box #3031 | ulowell!arosen | learned how to make it >Lowell, Ma 01854 | | talk" -Thunder Road > RD in '88 - The way it should be -- Sean Fagan uucp: {ihnp4,hplabs,psivax}!csun!sef CSUN Computer Center BITNET: 1GTLSEF@CALSTATE Northridge, CA 91330 (818) 885-2790