Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!umd5!uvaarpa!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!hplabs!hplabsz!taylor From: klg@dukeac.UUCP (Kim Greer) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: Effect of Computers on Society at Large Message-ID: <1791@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: 30 Mar 88 02:13:45 GMT Sender: taylor@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM Organization: Academic Computing, Duke University, Durham, NC Lines: 42 Approved: taylor@hplabs Ralph Marshall writes: > It seems to me that this group should also be addressing the problems > faced by people who are not computer literate at any level, and thus > are in severe danger of becoming part of a permanent underclass in our > society... Ralph, I think you answered part of your question yourself: > Yet this is the same country where we have unbeliveable rates of > high-school drop-outs who are often unable to even read English well > enough to understand on-screen prompts and instructions. My response is that if someone does not like the state they are in they should do something to change it. Let's ignore for now the people who really, truely are incapable of "using computers". I believe that most people who are at least a little a bit literate can, with _a little help_, perform virtually anything necessary on a computer in their day to day life. Note that I did not say they will become experienced assembly language programmers overnight. In your posting, your example was the ATM. If the man cannot use the ATM, maybe he should actually go in the bank ( yes, people still _actually_ go in banks :) ) and ask the employees for some instructions. I think this is usually offered by the bank when accounts are set up anyway for ATMs. Anyway, my point is : If someone is "disenfranchised" from using computers because they can't read, let them learn how to read. All through high school, I saw the people roaming the hallways causing disturbances during classtime and who now I'm sure are incapable of doing anything with their lives...because they are semi-literate at best and are generally ignorant (ie, uneducated). Is this my fault? No. They made their decisions; I made mine. As I said, this may seem harsh. I don't want to deny anyone their fair share of life's rewards. But ! people are generally able to do anything they really want to. People are responsible for making their lives what they wish them to be. Others cannot, and generally should not, do this for them, outside of making available the opportunity to do so. Kim L. Greer