Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!tektronix!uunet!longway!std-unix From: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: UNIX standard Keywords: UNIX SPARC Message-ID: <148@longway.TIC.COM> Date: 27 Mar 88 05:57:48 GMT References: <147@longway.TIC.COM> Sender: std-unix@longway.TIC.COM Reply-To: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 32 Approved: jsq@longway.tic.com (Moderator, John S. Quarterman) From: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) uunet!wlbr.eaton.com!etn-rad!jru (John Unekis) says some Sun sales types claimed that because of the ABI (binary standard), if your machine isn't based on SPARC (the Sun RISC chip), it wouldn't *really* be Unix compatible. He asks whether this is just hype. This issue has been discussed in the trade press a lot. A number of vendors are quite upset at the Sun/ATT cooperative deal for precisely this reason. They want Unix to continue to be open. ATT has been reassuring people that Unix will indeed continue to be open. ATT is helping create binary standards for SPARC and 386. Other vendors with serious interest in Unix are sponsoring similar standards for their chips, e.g. Motorola for the 680x0. The other major issue is whether other vendors will get advance copies of new releases soon enough that they can come out with their own ports, and not have Sun and ATT always be a year ahead of them. ATT is now saying that they will continue to do this, and that their own field test and other overheads are long enough that other vendors should be able to come out with releases at roughly the same time as the ones that ATT produces. It will be interesting to see how things develop in this area. I'm sure both ATT and Sun have toyed from time to time with the idea of closing Unix (whatever that means), but I don't see any way that that could really happen. [ Please pardon the paragraphing, Charles: I couldn't read it as one big block of text. -mod ] Volume-Number: Volume 13, Number 35