Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!cbmvax!gunther From: gunther@cbmvax.UUCP (Ed Gunther QA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Input from keyboard in startup-sequence Message-ID: <3480@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 18 Mar 88 15:33:36 GMT References: <820@umbc3.UMD.EDU> <3397@cbmvax.UUCP> <2868@omepd> <3668@cup.portal.com> <3439@cbmvax.UUCP> <3820@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: gunther@cbmvax.UUCP (Ed Gunther QA) Distribution: na Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 87 In article <3820@cup.portal.com> Roger@cup.portal.com writes: > My first posting to USENET and I get a flame from CA (does Max > know about this? :-). > I don't consider myself a person who flames people. I monitor this network with one simple purpose, to prevent people from being misinformed, especially in areas where I have direct knowledge. > Ed Gunther (gunther@cbmvax.UUCP) writes: > >In article <3668@cup.portal.com> roger@cup.portal.com writes: > >> Still, I too would like 1.3 (and 1.4 and 1.5... :-). I was at the > >> December F.A.U.G. meeting and, I believe it was, Dale Luck who stated > >> that CA had gotten 1.3 "months" ago. He didn't have an explanation > >> for the long delay, other than to say that CA had a really involved > >> quality assurance (testing) program. This got a good laugh from the > >> assembled masses. > >> > I got a good laugh from your reply too. I just imagined Donald Duck's > voice as I read your words. :-) > I tend to be somewhat soft spoken, but I assure you my voice is a little deeper than Donald's. > Seriously, lets just calm down a bit, okay Ed? Now then, please re-read > my last paragraph. I was just reporting the facts. The laugh from the > crowd was a spontaneous reaction to the speaker's remarks. *I* had nothing > to do with it, other than the fact that I was there. I, for one, hope that I guess you didn't make it very clear that you weren't one of those who found this amusing. > CA has a very tough quality assurance program. As one who's micro experience > started with the PET (then the VIC-20, C-64, A1000, and now B2000, and that's > just the Commodore machines) I can fully understand if some users might think > that QA hasn't exactly been Commodore's number one priority in the past. The > only resonable excuse I can come up with for your rather poorly directed flame > is that you are new to the world of Commodore and unfamilar with it's history. No, I guess as a C-64, C-128 and A1000 owner before joining Commodore I am very unfamiliar with its "history". I'm sorry, but when I was young I couldn't afford to get a PET, but is was first on my list at the time, okay? Oh yeah, and that's just with Commodore products for me, too. > Otherwise, why would you be so sensitive? Nerve hit, perhaps?? Maybe this happens when people are dedicated and enjoy their work. I hope you can say the same. > > However, now that I seem to have your attention, I do have a suggestion > for a "fresh prospective" that you and many other vendors could take > advantage of. I agree with you completely that what most vendors need > is someone to provide them with a fresh prospective. This is not always > provided by an internal QA department, however. As you alude to in your > .sig file, QA departments are not always given the chance they need to do > the job right. And sometimes QA departments seem to be nothing more than > "Yes Men", looking to keep some idiot of a manager happy. > All I can say to this is that we do our job as well as we're allowed to with the manpower and resources we have available. There, now I feel a little better. I don't have to have the last word, so reply as much as you like, I won't respond to this incident imparticular any further. However, I will still defend the rights of this and other QA Depts everywhere as long as the need continues to arise.... > > ...Roger... > > Roger Holmstedt | "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum > roger@cup.portal.com | and villiany... We must be cautious." > | - Obi-wan Kenobi > {ucbvax, decwrl, decvax, seismo, hplabs}!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!roger -- (((((((((()((((((((())(((((((()))((((((())))(((((()))))((((())))))(((())))))) __ Ed Gunther COMMODORE AMIGA TEST ENGINEERING / /\ "The LAST line of defense, if "THEY" let us!" < == /__\ UUCP ...{allegra,ihnp4,rutgers}!cbmvax!gunther \__ / \ PHONE 215-431-9356 (life or death only please!) "Disclaimer, heck no! NOooo PROBLEM. You have myyyy word on it." (((((((((()((((((((())(((((((()))((((((())))(((((()))))((((())))))(((()))))))