Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!unido!rmi!kkaempf
From: kkaempf@rmi.UUCP (Klaus Kaempf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: CEBIT Commodore Announcements (A2500, A3000)
Message-ID: <930@rmi.UUCP>
Date: 23 Mar 88 16:26:41 GMT
References: <7735@oberon.USC.EDU> <247@sdrc.UUCP>
Reply-To: kkaempf@rmi.UUCP (Klaus Kaempf)
Organization: RMI Net, Aachen, W.Germany
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In article <247@sdrc.UUCP> crgabb@sdrc.UUCP (Rob Gabbard) writes:

:   Does anyone have any further info on this announcement ? 
Yes me ! Read on !

: I guess the biggest questions would be about availibility and cost.
Availibility: 4th Quarter 1988
Cost: A 2500UX (Includes A2000, A2620 (68020CPU, 68881FPU, 68851MMU),
		A2024 Hi-Res Monitor, 100MB Harddisk (SCSI), Tape Backup
		System (60MB ?) and  **REAL** AT&T Unix V.3)
      will cost appr. 13000.- DM ( ca. $7500)

:  - Is the windowing shell on the A2500UX (and A3000 I would suppose) based on 
:    X Windows or NEWS ?  Commodore would be making a BIG mistake if it were not. 
C= said that they tried X-Windows but it was too slow. They showed a VERY
fast windowing system based on their own code. So its neither X-Windows
nor NEWS. It was also only a demo version.

: 
:  - Do the AT and UX have 68851 chips ?  I would think the UX would have to. 
The UX has the 68851. This chip is NOT included in the standard A2620 board.

:  - Will UNIX be available for the 2000 with the x020 board since it has a 
:    68851 ? 
The announced A2500 is the A2000. (see above)

:  - Was any hardware shown or is all of this VAPORWARE for the moment ?
The Hardware is REAL, the Software is REAL. I've seen it !

:  - Is a 2000 upgradable to a 2500 ? (If so, how much ?)
see above

: And on and on and on .....
Hold on !
A detailed CeBIT-Report is in preparation.


Klaus