Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!rochester!udel!rminnich
From: rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: CEBIT Commodore Announcements (A2500, A3000)
Message-ID: <1712@louie.udel.EDU>
Date: 24 Mar 88 15:25:57 GMT
References: <7735@oberon.USC.EDU> <247@sdrc.UUCP> <930@rmi.UUCP>
Reply-To: rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich)
Organization: University of Delaware
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Summary: Oh, well, good try. Price too high

In article <930@rmi.UUCP> kkaempf@rmi.UUCP (Klaus Kaempf) writes:
>
>: I guess the biggest questions would be about availibility and cost.
>Availibility: 4th Quarter 1988
>Cost: A 2500UX (Includes A2000, A2620 (68020CPU, 68881FPU, 68851MMU),
>		A2024 Hi-Res Monitor, 100MB Harddisk (SCSI), Tape Backup
>		System (60MB ?) and  **REAL** AT&T Unix V.3)
>      will cost appr. 13000.- DM ( ca. $7500)
   Arg. No Ethernet port? You can't sell it to a company or university
that way! 
   Arg Arg. $7500 ?? If this comes out in 4Q 88 they are going to 
be competing with fast machines with bigger disks that are in the
$4-5 range (no i can not mention a company). This is just too high.
>C= said that they tried X-Windows but it was too slow. They showed a VERY
>fast windowing system based on their own code. So its neither X-Windows
>nor NEWS. It was also only a demo version.
   The deal is, you have to interoperate if you want to be a workstation.
That means standards, like NFS and X windows, slow or not, unreliable
or not. I haven't seen a workstation come through here in a year
that did not support enet, nfs, and X10 or (now) X11.
And the ENET port is ALWAYS built in- not add-on.
>The UX has the 68851. This chip is NOT included in the standard A2620 board.
>The Hardware is REAL, the Software is REAL. I've seen it !
As Fred Fish commented in Amazing Computing, C= probably can not 
compete in this market. I hate to admit it, but this announcement
tends to confirm Fred's statement. :-(

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ron (rminnich@udel.edu)