Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!uwvax!astroatc!jojo
From: jojo@astroatc.UUCP (Jon Wesener)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: CEBIT Commodore Announcements (A2500, A3000)
Message-ID: <913@astroatc.UUCP>
Date: 25 Mar 88 14:56:11 GMT
References: <7735@oberon.USC.EDU> <247@sdrc.UUCP> <930@rmi.UUCP> <1712@louie.udel.EDU>
Reply-To: jojo@astroatc.UUCP (Jon Wesener)
Organization: Astronautics Technology Cntr, Madison, WI
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In article <1712@louie.udel.EDU> rminnich@udel.EDU (Ron Minnich) writes:
>In article <930@rmi.UUCP> kkaempf@rmi.UUCP (Klaus Kaempf) writes:
>>      will cost appr. 13000.- DM ( ca. $7500)
>   Arg. No Ethernet port? You can't sell it to a company or university
>that way! 
>   Arg Arg. $7500 ?? If this comes out in 4Q 88 they are going to 
>be competing with fast machines with bigger disks that are in the
>$4-5 range (no i can not mention a company). This is just too high.

	I'd like to see these companies.  Have you seen how much an
equivalently configured MAC II with their UN*X is!!  Or have you looked
at the projected prices of the NEXT machine?  Now those are expensive.
This isn't a fire sale 3b2 ;-)  The only thing I can think of for $4-$5000
would be some sort of IBM AT box running one of several UN*X's.  (Gag)

>>C= said that they tried X-Windows but it was too slow. They showed a VERY
>>fast windowing system based on their own code. So its neither X-Windows
>>nor NEWS. It was also only a demo version.
>   The deal is, you have to interoperate if you want to be a workstation.
>That means standards, like NFS and X windows, slow or not, unreliable
>or not. I haven't seen a workstation come through here in a year
>that did not support enet, nfs, and X10 or (now) X11.

	Well, this leaves it wide open for a 3rd party to bring X to the
Amiga.  (Not something I want to do, believe me -- that's a lot of source.)  
I can believe it will be slooooow, too.  I do agree that if you're trying
to enter the workstation market, an ethernet board is mandatory.  But if
you're trying to bring UN*X boxes into the home!...  We at work, are hoping
that this year or the next will be the year we get a decent UN*X box in for
the home.  They still are a little pricey, but we're getting there.

--j
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jon wesener
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