Xref: utzoo misc.legal:4280 comp.sys.ibm.pc:13490 comp.sys.mac:14255 comp.sys.apple:4771 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!beta!hc!ames!pasteur!ji.Berkeley.EDU!kolding From: kolding@ji.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Koldinger) Newsgroups: misc.legal,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Apple Challenges HP New Wave, MS-Windows, Potentially OS/2 PM Message-ID: <1719@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu> Date: 21 Mar 88 22:15:02 GMT References: <5480@well.UUCP> <4092@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Sender: news@pasteur.Berkeley.Edu Reply-To: kolding@ji.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Eric Koldinger) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 31 Keywords: Apple HP Microsoft Windows OS/2 New Wave Frivolous Litigation In article <4092@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> dumesny@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Alain Dumesny) writes: >I totally agree with Apple's claims. I don't think that companies like >Microsoft or HP, or just anyone, has the right to copy the interface >Apple as created (or at least expanded from an original design at Xerox). > My understanding of the suit is that Apple is not trying to stop other companies from using the windows and icons interface, but to keep them from designing ones that look too much like the Mac interface. After all X-windows and SunTools are similar to the Mac interface, but not so much as to infringe on the "look-and-feel" of Apple. >I hope that Apple will win, and that Microsoft will have to stop Window (or >give it a total different interface), because to me Window is a violation >to Apple rights (did you look at the windows, scroll bars, "elevators"..., >there is only a few differences, like the way you select an item from a >menu (you don't press the mouse button down while dragging, but rather click >again, which I must admit is better)). Actually, the suit wouldn't affect Windows, since Microsoft licensed the "look-and-feel" from Apple. Apple claims now that some of the new Windows oriented programs go overboard on how closely they look like the Mac. More interesting though is what effect this suit would have on the OS/2 Presentation Manager. If IBM/Microsoft is held back from releasing that, Apple will effectively kill (or at least seriously cripple) OS/2, effectively giving them a huge lock on portions of the business market. _ /| Eric \`o_O' kolding@ji.berkeley.edu ( ) "Gag Ack Barf" {....}!ucbvax!ji!kolding U