Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!uwmcsd1!ig!agate!web4e.berkeley.edu!laba-4an From: laba-4an@web4e.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Apple Challenges HP New Wave, MS-Windows, Potentially OS/2 PM Message-ID: <7930@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 23 Mar 88 17:48:36 GMT Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: laba-4an@web4e.berkeley.edu (Andy McFadden) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 31 Keywords: apple In <1473@alliant.Alliant.COM>, rosenkra@Alliant.COM (Bill Rosenkranz) writes: >apple has no way of claiming they invented (and own) window/mouse-type >computing environments. it seems to me that apollo was selling just that >circa 1980. sun has suntools and NeWS. MIT/DEC/IBM/... have X. what's >going on here? i'm sure if MS does it's homework, they can trace this >stuff way back to the 60's and 70's, long before apple even existed. >this suit is like trying to copyright the english language! but it >does give apple LOTS of free press ("say anything you want about us >as long as you spell our name right"). If they have such great systems, then why must they copy Apple's? Actually, neither X nor Suntools reminds me much of a Mac (X is, in my opinion, better, although it lacks that "personal" touch...) Until the Mac, nobody really used these wonderful interfaces on a "personal" computer. The GEM interface was more or less advertised as a way to turn your IBM into a Macintosh; is it any wonder that Apple went after them? If you stop looking at this as a holy quest, and start looking at it as a financial manuver, it begins to make more sense. Why would Xerox want to sue Apple? Will it conflict with the new Xerox PC, loved by college students around the world? Apple is in more direct competition with IBM and (to some extent) HP than Xerox. The only serious threat to the Mac is PS/2 with a Macintosh interface. Apple obviously has to do whatever it can to prevent this from happening. It doesn't take an econ major to know that. -- "An Apple a day..."