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From: rap@ardent.UUCP (Rob Peck)
Newsgroups: misc.legal,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Apple Challenges HP New Wave, MS-Windows, Potentially OS/2 PM
Message-ID: <332@ardent.UUCP>
Date: 23 Mar 88 00:05:16 GMT
References: <5480@well.UUCP> <5492@well.UUCP> <1457@ur-tut.UUCP> <1293@ut-emx.UUCP>
Organization: Dana Computer, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
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Keywords: Apple Mac HP Microsoft Windows OS/2 New Wave Frivolous Litigation
Summary: and it really becomes cost effective for software developers, right?

In article <1293@ut-emx.UUCP>, jcc@ut-emx.UUCP (J. Chris Cooley) writes:
> 
> In article <1457@ur-tut.UUCP>, aptr@ur-tut (The Wumpus) writes:
> > Apple is either getting cockey or just plain stupid.  Do they really
> > think they can take on both HP and Microsoft? 
>  [ other stuff deleted ]

And then Apple can go after and and all of its developers who have had
the audacity to take programs that made them some money running on
Macs, and ported them to other environments hoping to make a few
extra bucks on their original development efforts (perhaps reusing
a goodly portion of the source code, some algorithms, and, heaven-forbid,
the explicit-expression of the user-interface that made their program
popular in the first place).  

This may be just the beginning.  Users gonna lose a lot because of stifling
of creativity, I think - unless maybe it forces the next-generation of
user-interface upon us, just to get around a legal roadblock.  Interesting.

Re the New Wave, it would seem that Apple might have instituted the
lawsuit to give it time to catch up - the New Wave is a significant
advance in software integration WITH OR WITHOUT WINDOWS.  Go look at
the specs for what the "system" is supposed to do for integrating
applications - I was impressed with the ideas they've come up with.

Disclaimer:  I worked as a consultant to HP 2 years ago, producing the
first draft of the programmers' guide to interfacing to New Wave.  Now
that the program has been announced (and shipped?) I can see why someone
might want to slow them down since these same features (kinda a fancy
interprocess/interprogram communication) have not come out in other
systems in that 2 years time.  Hope HP has copyrighted/patented the
idea - be a terrible thing if someone else did it too, without giving
HP (more than just) a few bucks for coming up with it.

Rob Peck				...ihnp4!hplabs!ardent!rap

(everyone saw it coming... this wasn't REALLY a surprize, was it?)