Xref: utzoo misc.legal:4366 comp.sys.ibm.pc:13757 comp.sys.mac:14464 comp.sys.apple:4932 comp.sys.atari.st:8621 comp.sys.hp:608 comp.sys.amiga:16739 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!ucdavis!uop!miket From: miket@uop.edu (Mike Thompson) Newsgroups: misc.legal,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Apple Challenges HP New Wave, MS-Windows, Potentially OS/2 PM Message-ID: <1302@uop.edu> Date: 25 Mar 88 20:57:53 GMT References: <5480@well.UUCP> <5492@well.UUCP> <535@nunki.usc.edu> <512@cunixc.columbia.edu> Organization: University of the Pacific, Stockton, CA Lines: 39 Summary: Thoughts on why Apple did not include IBM in suit. >In article <1293@ut-emx.UUCP>, jcc@ut-emx.UUCP (J. Chris Cooley) writes: >> >> In article <1457@ur-tut.UUCP>, aptr@ur-tut (The Wumpus) writes: >> > Apple is either getting cockey or just plain stupid. Do they really >> > think they can take on both HP and Microsoft? >> [ other stuff deleted ] It is curious that Apple did not make mention of IBM (At least I don't think they did) in their law suit over the development of IBM's SAA (Systems Application Arch. -- I think :-)) which will make heavy use of overlaying windows similar to that of the OS/2 Presentation Manager. They also could have included IBM, since I believe IBM is also co-developer of OS/2's PM. Could it be that they are not really ready to play hard ball where the legal expenses of hassling with IBM could ruin Apple. I think that Apple is testing the legal waters of Look-and-Feel law suits by taking on WINDOWS and NEW WAVE and hope to set a court precident while going against relatively equal contenders (MICROSOFT AND HP) before taking on IBM with OS/2 PM. If they did win the case ( at least to the point where they did effect the look of WINDOWS or NEW WAVE) it would perhaps give Apple the incentive to go after more look-alike windowing systems like those on Sun's, Amiga's, Atari's (to beat up GEM again!!!) and, of course, IBM's newer systems. I hate to think that Apple could start the equivalent of China's Cultural revolution in this countries computer community. It would also be a strange position for the rest of us relying on IBM's big stick (big $$$$$$$) to defend creativity and enhance competition in the computer industry. These are my own rambling thoughts so don't take them too seriously, but I would appreciate any comments. Mike Thompson, University of the Pacific P.S. At least we now now Apple has BALLS. :^)