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From: dag@chinet.UUCP (Daniel A. Glasser)
Newsgroups: misc.legal,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.apple,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.amiga,comp.windows.misc
Subject: Re: Apple Challenges HP New Wave, MS-Windows, Potentially OS/2 PM
Message-ID: <4247@chinet.UUCP>
Date: 29 Mar 88 07:23:50 GMT
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In article <5541@well.UUCP> rogue@well.UUCP (L. Brett Glass) writes:
>If DRI, Microsoft, etc. were guilty of infringement because they used
>such things as menus, trashcans, and other such devices, then Apple is
>equally guilty on at least one count. The "zoom box," which causes a
>window to fill the screen, first appeared in GEM. (Be sure to add this to
>the list of "firsts" in comp.windows.misc.)
>
><rogue>


The above comment is absurd -- The 'zoom box' has been used in various
windowing environments for years, and predates GEM by at least four or
five.  I've used pre-GEM windowing workstations that not only had zoom
boxes, but could either scale or clip the window, depending on the application
and the user's desires.  When it comes right down to it, GEM is a poor
example of a general windowing system.  It is, however, what we have on
the ST, and what we must use.  Not only have I seen and used better,
I've designed and written better.  (No, I won't say where or on what product
or who I did it for, but I did it before the introduction of the ST or GEM.)

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		Daniel A. Glasser	dag@chinet.UUCP
    One of those things that goes "BUMP!!! (ouch!)" in the night.
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