Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!ut-sally!nather From: nather@ut-sally.UUCP (Ed Nather) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Echo Off! Solution! Message-ID: <10885@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: 24 Mar 88 20:18:37 GMT References: <2110@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <1256@nbires.nbi.com> <10063@steinmetz.steinmetz.ge.com> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 24 In article <10063@steinmetz.steinmetz.ge.com>, davidsen@steinmetz.steinmetz.ge.com (William E. Davidsen Jr) writes: > Why flame Microsoft. When users requested a feature they provided it. No, they really didn't. They made a fundamental design blunder in the first place -- "echo off" should have been the default condition. There is no disadvange whatsoever: you could use "echo on" if you WANTED the stupid thing to echo. This blunder was evident in DOS 2.0. People complained. Out came DOS 2.1 with the same stupidity entrenched. More people complained. Out came DOS 3.0 with the idiocy intact. Still more people complained. DOS 3.1 came out. Guess what? Well, maybe in DOS 3.2? No, ignorance remained triumphant despite voluminous complaints, and a flood of patches and fixes on BBSs and computer networks nation-wide. Now, DOS 3.3 -- is "echo off" the default, at long last? NO! You STILL have to include "Echo off" in EVERY batch file, and shut up its own echo with an "@" symbol. WHY? When Microsoft responds to individual user's complaints will be the day the earth stands still. -- Ed Nather Astronomy Dept, U of Texas @ Austin {allegra,ihnp4}!{noao,ut-sally}!utastro!nather nather@astro.AS.UTEXAS.EDU