Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:13675 comp.sys.hp:588 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!tektronix!tekgen!tekigm2!timothym From: timothym@tekigm2.TEK.COM (Timothy D Margeson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.hp Subject: Trial by JURY Message-ID: <2722@tekigm2.TEK.COM> Date: 24 Mar 88 22:10:43 GMT References: <2245176c@ralf.home> <1008@bcd-dyn.UUCP> Reply-To: timothym@tekigm2.UUCP (Timothy D Margeson) Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 41 cc: timothym@tekigm2 Hi, Okay, my two cents on the Apple vs. HP/Microsoft. Some have mentioned that IBM should also get into the suit, offering support in the attorneys ring. This sounds good on the surface, until you realize a small point in the suit filed. A jury. What this means is that all Apple has to do is prove, in layman's terms, and layman's eyes, the MAC interface and Windows 2.X and New Wave look alike. This is all that is required to win a copyright case. Now, add to this trial by jury a small, helpless company like Apple, being robbed of it's profits by the GIANTs MicroSoft, Hewlett Packard (and just think if IBM were invovled). Oh, that poor Apple (say's the jury). So, you can be sure Apple will want momma joe, a farmers wife from Froth, Kentucky on the jury, but not tom, a computer literate from Houston, Texas. Be sure, Apple WILL be able to select the jury, or at least deny ANY of those possible jury members whom might understand the real differences they should be looking for in a copyright case. Apple probable will win this case, but even if they don't, they can then use the case as a precent and copy like hell anything they want. So, it's a win win, case for Apple, and lose lose for HP and MS. IBM too for that matter. A third benefit from the case, win or lose, is that Apple will slow down any developement of Presentation Manager, 3rt party Windows applications and the like. Apple is not being dumb by any means. Also remember they won a similar suit against Digital Research. SO a precent in Apples favor already exists. Another case, similar to this, was Microstuff (Crosstalk) vs. Mirror (a Crosstalk clone). Microstuff won on the look and feel aspects of the case, lost on the aspects. So Mirror was changed so that the screens didn't look like Crosstalks, but everything else worked the same. Including the script language. -- Tim Margeson (206)253-5240 PO Box 3500 d/s C1-937 @@ 'Who said that?' Vancouver, WA. 98668 {amd..hplabs}cae780!tektronix!tekigm2!timothym (this changes daily)