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From: lupin3@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (-=/ Larry Hastings /=-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: Trial by JURY
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Date: 27 Mar 88 02:33:15 GMT
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+-In article <2722@tekigm2.TEK.COM>, timothym@tekigm2.UUCP (Timothy D Margeson) wrote:-
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| 
| What [having a jury] means is that all Apple has to do is prove, in layman's
| terms, and layman's eyes, the MAC interface and Windows 2.X and New Wave look
| alike.  This is all that is required to win a copyright case.
| 
| Now, add to this trial by jury a small, helpless company like Apple, being
| robbed of it's profits by the GIANTs MicroSoft, Hewlett Packard (and just
| think if IBM were invovled). Oh, that poor Apple (say's the jury).
| 
| So, you can be sure Apple will want momma joe, a farmers wife from Froth,
| Kentucky on the jury, but not tom, a computer literate from Houston, Texas.
| Be sure, Apple WILL be able to select the jury, or at least deny ANY of those
| possible jury members whom might understand the real differences they should
| be looking for in a copyright case.
| 
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  I doubt that the denizens of Froth, KT would ever have _heard_ of Microsoft;
they would probably be somewhat aware of Hewlett-Packard (oh yeah, they make
calculators, don't they?), and of course they would know who IBM was (that IS,
IF they get involved in the suit).
  On the other hand, I'm sure that very nearly every American has heard of
Apple, if not because of Apple itself (Time, Newsweek, ads during the Superbowl)
then because of the people (the super-rich Woz, and the super-wierd-and-rich
Jobs, and the whole rocking the boat because of Sculley).  (Yes, I know that
Bill Gates has more money than both Jobs and Woz combined, and YOU know that,
but those people in Froth don't know that.)

  Also, according to (and my roommate's) my memory of High School Government
(which was not, unfortunately, long ago); a jury for a copyright dispute is
a 12 man jury, of which _BOTH_ sides are allowed to kick out some small number
of possible jurors.

  And may I add that the suit was filed in San Jose, so we will probably have
jurors from _San_Jose_; and not from all over the globe (as this person seems
to think...?).

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|
| Apple probable will win this case, but even if they don't, they can then use
| the case as a precent and copy like hell anything they want. So, it's a win
| win, case for Apple, and lose lose for HP and MS. IBM too for that matter.
| A third benefit from the case, win or lose, is that Apple will slow down any
| developement of Presentation Manager, 3rt party Windows applications and the
| like.
| 
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  What would Apple want to copy?  They already have everyone _else_ copying
_them_...
  True, it _may_ slow down the _release_ (probably not the _development_,
they'd rather change it than slow it down at this point).

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|
| Apple is not being dumb by any means. Also remember they won a similar suit
| against Digital Research. SO a precent in Apples favor already exists. Another
|
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  Apple didn't _win_ that; they settled out of court.  I don't think that case
will help Apple; the only thing it could do is hurt them (and not much).

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| Tim Margeson (206)253-5240
| {amd..hplabs}cae780!tektronix!tekigm2!timothym (this changes daily)
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