Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!gatech!mcnc!decvax!mandrill!neoucom!wtm From: wtm@neoucom.UUCP (Resident Scatologist) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Microsoft Windows and MS support? Summary: But... There is somehting better (GEM 3.0) Message-ID: <1060@neoucom.UUCP> Date: 27 Mar 88 02:51:06 GMT References: <496@xios.XIOS.UUCP> <1975@optilink.UUCP> Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine Lines: 43 In article <1975@optilink.UUCP>, cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes: + + My attitude about Microsoft software is about the same as my attitude + about anti-perspirants -- I would prefer a better solution, but there + isn't one available, so I guess I will have to stick to something inelegant + and smelly. I just received my copy of GEM 3.0 with First Word Plus and Paint. At the same time I picked up GEM Draw. Both products are very reasonably priced via mail order. GEM is a very nice graphic environment compared to to Windows. At least, in GEM, things finish the same hour your start them, unlike pokey Windows. I heartily recommend both Draw and Paint. First Word Plus isn't really what I'd consider a real word processor, but it is much better than than Write in Windows. Digital Reasearch also unlike Microsoft answers their phone, if not with alacrity. I logged a call last Wednesday (had to leave a message on an answering machine) and got a call back Thursday afternoon from an uncharacteristicly pleasant and helpful person at D-R. I was impressed. My experinces with Microsoft have been interminable waits on hold and when I finally get a person, the answer has been to the effect "What? you don't have a REAL IBM PC? Well tough sh*t! Goodbye." D-R has managed to program GEM to be quick and play by the rules with the EGA card. I use an AT&T 6300 in which I have installed an STB Multires II EGA board. It works fine with GEM. Windows sends the screen into a black oblivion, requiring a cold reboot. The GEM developer's kit is also relatively afforable. I don't have it, but I've seen it advertised for about $350. I don't know if you get any special support as a developer. I don't get any financial reward for saying I like GEM. I just like it; your milage may vary according to driving conditions. --Bill