Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!rutgers!rochester!PT.CS.CMU.EDU!cadre!pitt!cisunx!jasst3 From: jasst3@cisunx.UUCP (Jeffrey A. Sullivan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: RE: Liability of [benign] virus creators et al. Message-ID: <7919@cisunx.UUCP> Date: 21 Mar 88 20:57:30 GMT Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh, Comp & Info Sys Lines: 36 Keywords: virus, liability, etc Some people have been ranting and raving about all of the retribution that they desire to be taken against the MacMag folks. They state that since some people have had damage to their machines, despite the claim that it was benign, that the MacMag people are liable or criminal or should be castrated, etc. I want to distance myself from these rather nasty sentiments from the start. I think that use of such terms and implied lawless behavior such as (I believe) someone who said they should be "kicked in the teeth" are totally out of line and should have no place on this net, or in any civilised discussion. This is the kind of vigilante mentality that really Goetz my goat. ;-) Anyway, the claim is that since someone had damage from the virus (I suppose this is provable? How do they _know_ the virus caused it?), that MacMag is liable allows the following logical extension. If anyone has damage to their software/hardware configuration due to a malfunctioning software, that software manufacturer is liable for the cost of repair and time of downness. This is obviously ridiculous. The MacMag people did not distribute an intentionally damaging item, and any damage occurring must be the result of unforeseen interactions. How, then, can they be held liable if you can not do the same ofr other software distributors? If ted jones, author of the new freeware utility, Splatz, discovers that his util caused Joe Schmoe to crash his HD with valuable and irreplaceable data on it, is he liable? Of course not. I do not condone the distribution of virii, and I _do_ think that it was an ill-advised prank, but it was obviously not "evil" as many have put it, nor can they be held liable (in my humble non-legal opinion) for any damages resulting from its use. I understnad that there are other extenuating conditions (most importantly, that the people dealing with the virus did not consent, knowingly or tacitly, to its use) but I still think the basic point of this post is vlid. -- .......................................................................... Jeffrey Sullivan | University of Pittsburgh jas@cadre.dsl.pittsburgh.edu | Intelligent Systems Studies Program jasper@PittVMS.BITNET, jasst3@cisunx.UUCP | Graduate Student