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From: scc@cl.cam.ac.uk (Stephen Crawley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.windows.misc
Subject: Re: A/UX window systems, Mac toolbox, etc
Message-ID: <1149@jenny.cl.cam.ac.uk>
Date: 21 Mar 88 01:31:07 GMT
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In article <1512@devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV> des@jplpro.JPL.NASA.GOV (David Smyth) writes:
>stuart@ihlpf.ATT.COM (S. D. Ericson) writes:
>>This is an argument I've seen over and over.  But I think a lot of people
>>don't realize that *Apple* invented Pull-down menus.
>
>I dunno about this.  Xerox certainly does have menus which pop when
>you hit a mouse button over an item with several choices.
>[...]  Anybody actually using XDE, Viewpoint, or the other Xerox
>environments care to comment?

The Star/Viewpoint product line has pull-down menus that you get by 
left-click-and-hold'ing over a little doodat in a window's menu bar.
There's another doodat on the "herald" bar along the top of the screen.

XDE has both pop-up and pull-down menus.  You get a pop-up menu stack by 
choording the 2-button mouse anywhere on the screen.  The contents of the
stack depends on the window you choord over.  Pull-down "hint" menus are 
used to fill in fields of a form subwindow.  You left-click-and-hold over 
the fieldname, pull down in the menu that appears to select a value.  When
you release the button, the value stuffed into the form field.

There are some neat "hacks" (unsupported programs) in XDE that allow you 
to provide your own hint menus for a tool that does not provide them.

If only Xerox had released XDE (or Mesa as it was originally) as a
product 5 or 6 years ago ...

-- Steve