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From: earleh@eleazar.Dartmouth.EDU (Earle R. Horton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: A/UX: help!
Message-ID: <8462@eleazar.Dartmouth.EDU>
Date: 25 Mar 88 07:34:20 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Lines: 66
Keywords: Startup file, ethernet, where is everything?

We have a Mac II here with A/UX on it, and an EtherTalk board installed,
and Ethernet cable plugged right into it.  In short, the thing is ready to
go, except for the famous SIMM shortage.  Today we finally broke down and
bought a 1 Meg memory upgrade kit, tired of waiting.  I booted UNIX on the
Mac, for the first time, and the thing came up in SINGLE USER mode!  Huh?
After some experimentation and browsing through "man" pages and poking into
the contents of sub-directories of /etc, I deduced that the name of the
EtherTalk interface must be "ae0", that it wanted the hardware address of
the EtherTalk board placed in /etc/ethers.  Also that typing "init 2" would
get me something that looked like multi-user mode, and I could run the
"term" program if I started up the toolbox daemon.  Well, I supplied the
necessary addresses everywhere it looked like they should go, gave the thing
a hostname, "ifconfig"ed "ae0" into an up state, and tried "telnet"ing to an
RT located about 5 feet away.

I don't know what surprised me more, the fact that it took FIVE MINUTES to
make the connection, or that it finally did make it ("Wow, guys, we're on
the network!")  I even managed to ftp over a full hosts table from the RT,
after another FIVE MINUTE wait for the connection.  Rlogin, no luck.  Rcp,
rsh, also no luck.  I tried telneting in from another host, and got this:

Trying...
Connected to northstar40.dartmouth.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
**** MINUTES ****
^]/usr/ucb/telnet >send ayt
**** ONE MINUTE ****
[YES]

A/UX Apple UNIX (northstar40)

login: root
password:
<Normal UNIX session follows.  Ho, hum, boring.  Everything seems normal
 now.  Strongly resist the temptation to "rm -r /usr/src/emacs" which is
 taking up 15 Megs of the 80 Meg SCSI.>

Looking through the spiral-bound installation manual, I see that we need a
System Administrators Manual (ordered) and a Network Administrators Manual,
which is EXTRA, and we have to get the net manual from ADPA.  And you need
"Programming Experience" if you hope to use NFS.  No, no, no!  It just
doesn't have to be this hard!

I don't think there's anything wrong with the EtherTalk board, since when
run in native Macintosh mode, the Chooser finds every Zone, LaserWriter, and
AppleShare server on campus in less time than it takes to double-click.  But
when I try to do anything with it with UNIX running, I get the distinct
impression that somebody's out to lunch.  Well, I guess we'll get the
manuals, someday.  In the mean time, does anybody have:

     a)  A shell script for bringing up the EtherTalk board.
     b)  Instructions on getting this sucker to boot normally?
     c)  Hints, suggestions of any kind.

I seriously think all we need is about three lines of shell script, and
maybe a paragraph of instructions from someone who has gone this route
before, and we can get this sucker in gear.  It's got a long way to go to
catch up with the RTs, which run 4.3 BSD, speak AppleTalk, and are
thoughtfully supplied with about 50 Megs of swap space each.

Caio.

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*Earle R. Horton, H.B. 8000, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755   *
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