Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:14541 comp.windows.misc:410 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mailrus!ames!pasteur!agate!spam!lippin From: lippin@spam.berkeley.edu (The Apathist) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.windows.misc Subject: Re: Useability, Das, Trashcans, etc. Message-ID: <8098@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 29 Mar 88 03:17:48 GMT References: <2956@whutt.UUCP> <7004@drutx.ATT.COM> <2451@tekcrl.TEK.COM> <18600@think.UUCP> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: lippin@spam.UUCP (Tom Lippincott, ..ucbvax!bosco!lippin) Organization: SOWHAT -- Stop Oppression Without Hardly Any Trouble Lines: 32 Recently barmar@fafnir.think.com.UUCP (Barry Margolin) said: >This sounds nice. There could be a "collapse box" to go along with >the zoom box. [...] >Why is it too late? They added the zoom box, and now most >applications use it. The logic of the collapse box is identical, >except that the new size is tiny instead of huge. I'm not really happy with the idea of a collapse box; I suspect that it would add clutter to both the title bars and to the desktop (as there might be many collapsed windows). My suggestion is that dragging the small icon of an application off of the menu bar and onto the desktop would close up all it's windows and suspend the foreground parts of the application. This could be reversed by double-clicking the small icon. Suspended applications could be told from files as the desktop currently doesn't have small icons. Variations on this theme with help from the application include quitting an application by dragging it into the trash, and saving the state of an application by dragging it into a disk or folder's icon or window. Opening such a saved state would start the application with the same documents and settings, and perhaps even scroll the windows to the same positions. I declare the look and feel of this idea free to all. --Tom Lippincott ..ucbvax!bosco!lippin "When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers."