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From: mkent@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Marty Kent)
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Subject: Allegro CL strangeness; info request
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Date: 24 Mar 88 03:39:21 GMT
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(Don't know whether rec.jokes mightn't be a more suitable forum for this
request, but this is serious...)

After having some problems with output in a standard (i.e. non-Fred,
non-Listener) window, I notice in the Allegro manual where is says under
"Drawing Text" (pg. C-7) "Special characters such as return (i.e. from
TERPRI...) have no effect."  My first question is, "Who the hell are these
guys supposed to be kidding??"  Since when is RETURN a "special
character?"  C'mon, fellas, that's utterly ridiculous: a lisp with no
TERPRI!

So, before I go to the trouble of writing something that looks at a window
and does the right thing with scrolling, as well as font size, does
anyone have a working TERPRI for Allegro?

It seems to me from my bit of experimentation with *eventhook* that a
function bound to the global doesn't in fact get notified of all events.
For instance, mouseUp events in the active window don't show up there at
all.  I wrote a simple function to print out the fields in certain events
as they're detected by event-dispatch.  When I grab a window's size
control, it prints the "what" and msg fields, but won't print the "where"
field until I unbutton!  And, of course, no sign of a mouseUp event...
Can anyone point me at a reasonable explanation of this?

Cheers...

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