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From: orr@taux01.UUCP (Orr Michael )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.nsc.32k
Subject: Re: kit wishlist and software
Message-ID: <538@taux01.UUCP>
Date: 30 Mar 88 15:27:53 GMT
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Reply-To: orr@taux01.UUCP (Orr Michael )
Organization: National Semiconductor (Israel) Ltd.
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Keywords: 32k kit, cheap unix.

In article <862@astroatc.UUCP> johnw@astroatc.UUCP (John F. Wardale) writes:
>In article <23506@hi.unm.edu> cyrus@hi.unm.edu (Tait Cyrus) writes: 
>>
>>To those of you who have suggested using GENIX, I would say DO NOT
>>USE IT.  Namely, the GENIX C compiler, along with GENIX itself,
>>uses external procedures (i.e. cxp, rxp, lxp, etc) which is VERY
>>VERY VERY VERY............ SLOW.
>---------------------------------
>
>Please do *NOT* confuse a SYSTEM with a COMPILER !!!!!!!!
>
    Hear! Hear !

>Symetrics has a Genix port with there own complier/linker/etc.
>that does *NOT* use cxp-et.al.   I don't have hard timings, but I
>have a good feel that the difference is only about 10 or 15%
>
>There *IS* a Green-Hill's compiler for the National, but it's not
>cheap.  It's code should be 15-25% faster than the symetics's.
>

	As I mentioned before, NS has a full set of compilers,
    called CTP (Compiler Technology Project), which include 4 
    front-ends, (pascal,Modula2, C and Fortran77), a common global
    optimizer, and a common code generator (which I am currently
    responsible for). The compiler is part of the "GNX" language
    tools package, which, in turn, runs on (among other environments)
    a "GENIX" system, which is a port of SysV . I have no idea of
    the cost of any of these packages, as I am not involved in
    sales/marketing, but your (hopefully) local NS rep will
    be able to find out for you.
    I may (8-]) be biased, but I think CTP is worth looking into
    if you use the 32K chips.
>					John Wardale
>... {seismo | harvard | ihnp4} ! {uwvax | cs.wisc.edu} ! astroatc!johnw
>

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