Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!cmcl2!husc6!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!umix!uunet!mcvax!enea!kuling!irf From: irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Re: HP-UX Plug Message-ID: <688@kuling.UUCP> Date: 25 Mar 88 06:32:57 GMT References: <1367@edison.GE.COM> <4760011@hpirs.HP.COM> Reply-To: irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide) Organization: Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University, Sweden Lines: 29 In article <4760011@hpirs.HP.COM> wk@hpirs.HP.COM (Wayne Krone) writes: >features and a set of standard (X/Open, ANSI, etc.) features. HP, AT&T >and others are devoting significant resources to the task of making >many of the proprietary features part of standards which we can all >then support in our implementations. Through X/Open and /usr/group >internationalization efforts, quite a lot of progress has been made in >the area of supporting Western-European based languages. We are just >beginning to address the needs of Asian languages (see, for example, >the multibyte support in the latest ANSI-C draft). There is one major problem with HPs own NLS and the X/Open standard: X/Open defines the ISO 8859 character set(s) as the 8-bit ASCII characters for European languages whereas HP has chosen their own propietary sets (ROMAN8, TURKISH8 etc..) and this is causing A LOT of problems when you want to implement NLS in Swedish (and Finnish, Norwegian, Danish, German ...)! It's a pity that such a great system like NLS on HPs can only be used together with HPs own printers, terminals etc. Reportedly VT200s nowadays have ISO 8859-1 characters as an option. Our secretaries don't like this confusion (neither do they like the idea that you have to hit two keys to get an umlaut-o, that is, an o with two dots on top, on HP terminals). Fortunately, there might be a way out of this impasse: the xkeymap facility in X Windows. We use X Windows, UNIX editors and TeX with previers for producing scientific report and articles. -- >>> Bo Thide', Swedish Institute of Space Physics, S-755 90 Uppsala, Sweden <<< Phone (+46) 18-300020. Telex: 76036 (IRFUPP S). UUCP: ..enea!kuling!irfu!bt