Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:14191 comp.windows.misc:339 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!mailrus!umix!metavax!oxtrap!hal!mandrill!nitrex!rbl From: rbl@nitrex.UUCP ( Dr. Robin Lake ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.windows.misc Subject: Re: A/UX window systems, Mac tool...( Hum Interface) Message-ID: <672@nitrex.UUCP> Date: 15 Mar 88 12:39:00 GMT References: <4129@hoptoad.uucp> <283@rhesus.primate.wisc.edu> <1710@ssc-vax.UUCP> <7523@apple.Apple.Com> <1719@ssc-vax.UUCP> <241@eos.UUCP> Reply-To: rbl@nitrex.UUCP ( Dr. Robin Lake ) Organization: The Standard Oil Co., Cleveland Lines: 57 In article <241@eos.UUCP> lyman@eos.UUCP (Lyman Taylor) writes: >In article <1719@ssc-vax.UUCP> benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel) writes: > > .... ( deleted comments Byron Han made about multifinder ) > > >>Still sounds awfully serial to me. What happens if you have two windows >>at the top (i do this on a sun, usually two editting sessions) maybe >>different editors side by side...? Your menu bar would be constantly >>changing as you go back and forth (cutting and pasting)... (all that >>wasted mouse travel time and a wasted mouse click ) >>I think context-sensitive menus make more sense (try SunView applications >>and see how well they work) :-) (Seriously, I think a menu bar starts >>making less sense in a multitasking environment were more than one >>application is running at a time in a number of different windows ) > > > > Unfortunately, us humans can only handle ONE high level cognitive task >at once. Therefore, we only need ONE menu at a time. Anything above that is >a nice HACK, but not all that useful for us mortals. Needless to say, it >ignores most of what about Human Computer Interaction. > > ... edited for brevity ... > Think about it. When have you ever seen anyone, including yourself, >doing two things at once ( like running a spredsheet and SIMULTANEOUSLY writing >something into your favorite editor ). I give you a hint most computers I seen >have ONE keyboard per user. This applies to general human behavior also. For >example, people can only handle one conversation at a time. Some people can >easily and rapidly " task switch " from conversation to conversation ( doing >something remarkably similiar to a multitasking operating system ) but they >cannot do it in parallel. > Just HAVE to reply to this one. I'm sitting at my workstation, using 3 keyboards and 3 CPUs --- just because they are not yet interconnected and some of the software won't ever port: - Color VAXstation 2000 running a vendor's modelling package (VMS) - A VT240 which can run a second model on the VAXstation, but is almost always used to run a word processing package on another VAX/VMS system. This is so I can maintain a running narrative of the modelling results. - A Macintosh running (one or more, depending on whether MultiFinder is in use or not): - Another, different modelling package - A HyperCard utility that does some routine calculations needed for the VAXstation modelling work - A VT240 terminal emulation to run models on the VAX when cheap hardcopy is needed - A VT100 emulation to read news on a UNIX system while the model(s) run. Would I like multiple windows and multitasking on a single machine? --- only if it's a MAC! Then it can run EVERYTHING via terminal emulators in one box ---- but there aren't enough serial ports on the Mac to do that! -- Rob Lake {decvax,ihnp4!cbosgd}!mandrill!nitrex!rbl