Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mailrus!umix!umich!mibte!ccd700!jim From: jim@ccd700.UUCP (J. Sitek) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Now it Can Be Told Message-ID: <149@ccd700.UUCP> Date: 28 Mar 88 20:52:00 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Ford CCD, Dearborn Michigan Lines: 74 Keywords: WARNING: Fairly long posting I would like to take this opportunity to say "thanks" to those people who participated, albeit unknowingly, in an experiment. This experiment was designed to demonstrate how the people who complain the loudest about some perceived infringement of their "rights" to participate on Usenet, are the same people who have the least amount of respect for the network structure, and the people who administer it. I say "perceived infringement" to point out that such people often lash out without taking the time to determine how such action will (or will not) affect them. The lack of respect for both the system, and the administrators is usually demonstrated in two ways. First, is the propensity for degenerating a rational discussion into a "pissing contest". In this case, facts and logical reasoning fall off the table completely, replaced with every logical fallacy in the book. Second, this happens in any newsgroup, even those with very explicitly stated ground rules, ie. news.admin. In this case, I announced that I was dropping the talk and soc groups, because they were consuming inordinate amounts of disk space, and the content in these groups made it impossible to justify the time needed to administer them. This was actually just a little less than honest. In fact, these groups disappeared from my disk long ago. Greg Laskin took the time to investigate the potential implications of my actions. He determined (correctly) that being a leaf node, dropping these groups would have absolutely no effect on the network in general. In fact, the only consequence of these actions was to *reduce* volume in these groups by eliminating postings from this site. Mr. Laskin further stated that perhaps this action was representative of some sort of warning, which should not be ignored. Bravo. Other net.brethren, most notably C. J. Silverio, Matthew Weiner, and Bob Webber chose a more fallacious approach. By ignoring the facts as they were presented, and resorting to attacking me personally, as well as my place of employment, these remarkable gentlemen successfully demonstrated the following: They lack the faculties to determine the implications of my actions, which for them were non-existent. This actually goes a little deeper as the implications were determined for them. One can only conclude that the issues were of little importance to them. They either fail to understand the purpose of news.admin, or choose to ignore it. Since a description of each newsgroup is furnished as part of the news software, one must conclude that they chose to violate the ground rules of this group. By viciously attacking someone whom they have never met, simply because this person dares to hold opinions which differ from theirs, they prove that concepts such as freedom of speech, and personal liberty have no meaning to them. What does all of this mean? For me, this proves that these individuals have absolutely no respect for this network, the people who maintain it, or the principles on which it was founded. They view it as a diversion, an escape from the humdrum reality of everyday life. I imagine that they really don't view the other people on this network as being real, but, mere apparitions created by imagined "net gurus" somewhere, put here to provide them with a relief valve. Well guys, we *are* real people. We have real feelings, ideas, and responsibilities. We may not always look, act or think the way you would want us to, but, I was under the impression that this was what this network, and this country was all about. By showing us how you *choose* to portray yourselves, you provide a somber reminder that intolerance, ethical egoism, and pure hatred are alive and well in America. Thanks very much for the dose of reality. To those who supported me via Email, thank you, really. Jim Sitek PS. Don't bother following up. You have provided more than enough data already.