Xref: utzoo soc.men:3076 sci.bio:1010 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!cca!g-rh From: g-rh@cca.CCA.COM (Richard Harter) Newsgroups: soc.men,sci.bio Subject: Re: Sexual selection Message-ID: <25746@cca.CCA.COM> Date: 19 Mar 88 21:49:49 GMT References: <1566@mmm.UUCP> <3138@arthur.cs.purdue.edu> <1164@microsoft.UUCP> <25701@cca.CCA.COM> <4368@blia.BLI.COM> Reply-To: g-rh@CCA.CCA.COM.UUCP (Richard Harter) Organization: Computer Corp. of America, Cambridge, MA Lines: 34 In article <4368@blia.BLI.COM> heather@blia.BLI.COM (Heather Mackinnon) writes: >There have been many human societies with baboon-style alpha male >mating patterns. [Examples of polygamy deleted.] Not the same thing. Human polygamy is tied to support. The male with several wives must be able to support them all. In these societies I believe you will find that polygamy was pretty much restricted to a relatively wealthy minority, with most people being monogamous. In baboons, et. al. the alpha male does not support the females and the young. Only the alpha males breed. The situations are quite different from a selection viewpoint. >This leads to an interesting question: when did the move towards monogamy >happen and why? Did it happen when agriculture replaced hunting and >gathering? Did it happen with the growth of cities? Did it happen when >the male and female populations became more even? Does it have anything >to do with Christianity? (In India, Hinduism permits polygamy, but >Mohammedism forbids it.) I'm a little skeptical about this idea that the male and female populations were ever out of balance as a regular thing -- on one hand the males lead riskier lives, on the other hand females died with great regularity in childbirth. I would phrase the question differently, as "when did polygamy become unacceptable?". I rather suspect that wide spread polygamy came into being with agriculture, just because it became economically feasible (i.e. wealth suplus and larger, more differentiated society.) It is an interesting question, though. -- In the fields of Hell where the grass grows high Are the graves of dreams allowed to die. Richard Harter, SMDS Inc.